Peter S wrote:I'm afraid that looks like the true edge to me! When I'm striking a Zwerchau from left to right, I often curl my left hand around like that.
Fair enough, perhaps that particular image might look like a rising true edge Zwerchau, but it could also be a descending false edge Zwerchau. In any case, we see textual descriptions of the false edge descending version of the strike. For example, here is a description from Ringeck's gloss on the "sweeps":Or if he falls powerfully with the sword on top of yours, go immedi-
ately with the pommel over his sword and remain there with the hands.
Then let the point go backwards to your left side; and strike him with
the short edge in the head.
The only way that can work is to end in the position shown in the image above, striking down with the false edge and finishing in Ochs, so pretty much a Zwerchau.
Francesco Lanza wrote:Down here in Meyerland you are taught to hit with the false edge to the upper left bloessen as a matter of fact. Depending on what is the angle of attack, it can get pretty nasty (downward) or pretty difficult to hit well with (upward). To be word perfect, though, Meyer wouldn't call this a Zwerchau. He has an interesting way to describe both mittelhau and zwerch.
I haven't really looked into Meyer a lot, I much prefer the earlier manuscripts. However, I am aware that he describes this kind of technique, and I thought he still used the term "zwerch" for the strike. How does he describe the difference between the Mittelhau and the Zwerchau?
Francesco Lanza wrote:Whatever the case may be, wouldn't it simply make sense to train cutting with both edges on both sides?
Yup! Very much so. However, the purpose of the question was simply to see if anyone else finds this type of strike to be useful or beneficial since I personally find it awkward, and because I very rarely see it used in any of the video clips I watch.