Francesco Lanza wrote:Michael, an off topic question for you since you have a lot of studies and references under your eyes: years ago I read that somebody dated one of the English fencing manuscript to the end of 14th century because of the letters and vocabulary used. Do you remember something about that?
That would be the so-called "Man yt Wol
" (or man þt wol, "The Man That Would...") treatise, in the MS Harley 3542. It seems to date from the turn of the 15th century, but it's tough to narrow it down further than that. It is indeed roughly coeval with Fiore and the 3227a, though, you're right. Hard to tell which is oldest, actually, since only Fiore had the decency to give us a proper date (and only in one of the four extant texts).
Terry Brown has studied the text extensively and could tell you more. I'd link to the article he wrote on the subject, but it seems to have been removed from scribd at some point in the last year.