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by Tuomas T » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:54 am
JimC wrote:Since Guy Windsor has taken so much time publishing his stuff, I can steal his. This showcases what I believe Fiore is on about in the Posta di Donna description:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qxSz0lxvh
@0:32 Posta di Donna vs Thrust using Break (Fiore tells us the Break uses the same footwork as the Exchange mentioned in Posta di Donna)
by Richard Marsden » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:15 pm
Wait! Richard is Wrong!
by JimBarrows » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:21 pm
JimC wrote:I presume that the video is supposed to show that the small time taking this step leads to a superior action. Ether the step will allow you to hit, or it will enable a second intention. But I just don't see that. In fact, on closer analysis I think the video shows the opposite to be true. I think it highlights why the time spent stepping left and then passing across an initial fendenti is not good.
Lower arrow highlights how the attacker has exposed his outside to the defender. This allows the defender to more easily gain the attackers back via playing on the left side or yielding under the cross. Also note the twisted torso which will aid unbalancing of the attacker should the defender get to the outside. This also means if the defender "goes left' the attacker will have to twist around even more to follow them. The upper arrow shows the exposed right, forward forearm. Very vulnerable to both sniping and second intention.
JimC wrote:Defender steps in and gets hit. However, note the posture of the defender. He has leaned back and crumpled his arms under his counter attack. He finds himself on the wrong side of the attackers sword trying to power though the attacker with no structure behind the cut where as the attacker has both superior structure in his cut and I believe superior physical strength. In the video if you rewind a few frames, you will see the defender fold in on contact to this crumpled position. You may argue that this is due to a superior angle of attack, however note the arrow by the foot. Had the defender maintained structure with good arms and posture, he would find himself on the outside of the attacker and in complete control via simple yield.
JimC wrote:Just parry. Looks like a good parry and it looks like the defender here is in a good position to repost as the defender has control of the centre and the attacker is twisted up, sword to their right, and body angled left. Since this is kinda like Fiore's go-to defence, this is the expected result. Attackers hands are high, I suggest ruining down the sword and ruining the hands followed with a thrust to the face.
JimC wrote:Both do the same thing. Defender here has won, completely. He has the back and the attacker is completely twisted around trying to follow the defenders movement to the left.
JimC wrote:Defenders charges in. Note the defender yielding under the blade and taking the attackers back. The video shows a FUT resulting, but with reasonable execution this is easily one of a numbers of Fiore's stretto plays. I see an obvious pommel strike coming myself.
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