nathan f wrote:on the sword i will sit down now and see where it is and if exact dimensions etc can be got its in the meyer book if anyone has it rough dimensions and the location of the originals.
those i must say are interesting gloves and the head pieces oddly remind me of those samurai ones with the headband with a steel band at the front.
as far as i know with fiore (not knowing much on him just the context of his manual) is that his texts are dedicated to battlefield combat and this progresses and with ringeck we see street fighting and unarmoured works come in until around meyers time armour is no existent in context of the manual.
also tinker that makes these forums great i know some you know some it helps all of us in the hema world progress.
i tend to bounce from manual to manual a bit but am trying to stick on ringeck and meyer really.
Fiore is about much more than the battlefield. He basically covers everything from self-defence (dagger, seated and 'alternative' weapon plays) to duelling (he says he fought 5 duels in just a gambeson and leather gloves, and that he advises his students against it) to the judical duel (the weapon set shown is that of a judicial duel and he talks of fighting in the lists a lot) to the battlefield (actually I think this is the one thing that is not directly mentioned but seems to follow).
Even looking at Ringeck we have pretty similar contexts to Fiore, I am not sure where you are getting that it is 'street fighting and unarmoured'?