Michael Chidester wrote:Which supports the assertion that Unterhalten uses the ground-and-pound approach to wrestling.
Definitely. Note that the first thing Mair says to do is control the bottom figure's right arm with your left hand? That controls his dominant arm and leaves yours free to throw hammer-fists to his stinking face.
Michael Chidester wrote:Next question: submissions on the ground? I've seen dozens of different submissions performed standing up, but are they a component of HEMA ground game?
Here are a few from Codex Wallerstein (one of which is in Mair, too): http://paulushectormair.blogspot.com/20 ... stein.html
Mair also describes (but doesn't show) a front choke from mount in that shortstaff plate.
I wouldn't have a problem with the standing keylocks and such from CW being executed from a dominant position on the ground. I think that's a logical application of those techniques. I would, however, take issue with submissions from the bottom or from the guard we see in Mair. I'd argue that the bottom fighter's only goal should be to defend/pull guard until he can escape or sweep.