Thanks for the quick response!
Meyer has mittelhut on both sides as far as I remember but not for Dusack., nebenhut only on one side.
i see Mittelhut as a derivative of Zornhut personally. I definatly don't like nebenhut on left, but i love mittelhut on both sides.
--Mittelhut on the right would just be a Nebenhut that has been allowed to "drift up" a bit...yes? One of the advantages I see in the Nebenhut on the right side is that it allows you to "hide" the weapon along your leg. At the beginning of an exchange on the battlefield, the opponent wouldn't be sure what weapon you held or how long is actually was.
Not too sure whats up with the Schrankhut, i don't use it much, i think its somewhat de-emphasized in Meyer, but yeah looks like Meyer's version is just a low hanging and not that good for some Krumphaus. But then Meyer has quite a few krumphaus IMHO
---Yeah, the way Meyer shows it, I'm not too sure how useful it would be, and what it would be used for. As a set-up for a strong Krumphau like I described before, it works great.
Oh Meyer definatly has the Kron,
--Ah! I guess I need to look closer at his text! But you didn't list it on the website in the summary of all the guards? And does Meyer have actual half-swording techniques? PHM has 8 to 10 plates with multi-step set-plays dedicated to fighting half-sword vs. half-sword.
I think Schlussel is a derivative of Ochs, Einhorn and Pflug and if you use the magical powers of UMB the transitions are wonderful (i'll show you in April in Orlando)
No idea why Forgeng calls it day
here is a few questions for you
1 Why no right side Vom tag, even in the (gasp) Dusack)
i have my own theory on this, but its all just conjecture really
--There isn't? I thought at one point Meyer states that all guards can be done on either side.
2 Dusack Wacht Guard
Why is it not in line with the rest of the German High Guard depictions, I think i understand why the supporting hand (also in Stier), but If Meyer added this himself he is quite the radical trend setter.
--I think this is just a modification of the Tag or "Luginnsland". It is a primary guard position. But if you held the weapon straight up in the air for any length of time, its going to cause fatigue. So Meyer lets it hang down instead. Otherwise it seems to function exactly the same.
3 why does PHM have Wooden Dusack with Steel Dagger?
--That's only in his section of "strange combinations."
It doesn't figure into his dedicated Dussack section at all.
4 Why is the PHM Dusack and some others so much more curved than the Meyer, could this be because of a more eastern (czech) influence or because Meyer was more in line with the Messer application?
--Too me, PHM's Dussack doesn't look that much more curved that Meye'r's. The biggest difference I see in them is that PHM incorparates a "nagle" to protect the back of the hand.
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