Dan Sellars wrote:That sounds very strange. I bought Malipiero's book when it came out even though I don't speak Itailan, just for the pictures. Although I have to rely on translation I am looking at at something or other in the MS everyday.
If I could actually read Italian... wow. Why would you not read it? From what I understand, while different, the differences between medieval Italian and modern Italian are not as large as the differences between medeival English and modern English.
It is a bit more complex than that. The structure is very similar, the words are almost
there but sometimes are used differently, and there's a lot of terms that fell into disuse. Evennthe punctuation works against you: in medieval and renaissance italian is either not there or put in places that play tricks with the logic we are used to. One of the best ways is to read aloud! Every Italian could read Fiore or Marozzo straight from the source, but to avoid a lot of pitfalls and errors and literally years of study he would need qualified instruction like Malipiero's book. It's a shame that there so few people actually studying it. They instead rely on the people who taught them, and keep teaching the same to their own followers. Yet, I'm speaking about reenactors, not HEMA practitioners. The big problem here is that in Italy not many know there's a difference
BTW, just to avoid sounding too preachy: I would also let you know that I personally NEVER studied Fiore, I never felt it mine
, I don't know why. I'm not flinging judgement to people who actually study and love that master. As for Marozzo, there is yet no true study published on him, and I have just one life: ars longa, vita brevis and stuff
Sure, the Achille Marozzo guys who did the book
They are great guys, met them just once and found them nice! I bet that if you have any question they would respond to it eagerly!
Dan Sellars wrote:Mind you I am amazed how many people I speak to don't read the sources themselves even here. They are happy just to turn up and do that they are told then go home. I need to know why. I'm even thinking of learning Italian so I can read the darn books and I have the language ability of a rock.
You are speaking to an Italian who's trying to learn Medieval German on his own so I'm really there too