Jesse Eaton wrote:Joey,
The problem with listing MMA as a model is that MMA had to create rules to keep the fights interesting. Otherwise it was complete domination by the ground game. Look at UFC 1-4. The Gracie clan dominated the rule less matches. It was also very boring, so it had to change for that reason too, but the early matches showed the weakness inherent infighting styles that had no ground game. I agree that there is a certain amount of Rock, Paper, Scissors, and of course Lizard and Spock are there too, but to what extent? We really won't know until we see it.
This is incorrect. The rules were changed not because of the Gracie domination ( which was the plan in the first place as they knew they would win from competing in Brazil and Japan), but rather to gain regulation and return to PPV. The domination of the BJJ guys started to fade with the advent of wrestlers who crossed trained with submissions which led to a "ground and pound" era. This era ended with the rise of Strikers who knew how to defend takedowns, the "sprawl and brawl" era. Which led to the modern era of fighters who can do a little of everything very well. Fighters like Jon Jones, Anderson Silva, George St. Pierre, etc. have superior striking, wrestling and submissions. This is not due to the rules, but rather to the game changing with time and experience. The evolution of MMA is getting very interesting, more so in the lighter weight categories.
Francesco Lanza wrote:I'm afraid that it would tell far more about the fencers than their styles, as often is the case. Besides, as intelligent human beings they are not as limited and elemental in their styles as this thread would wish for, and I am completely sure they have a lot of different tools up their sleeves. But hey, this is cool: maybe we can start to get some understanding about how to match up styles and strategies this way - again, a lot like what happens in boxing. It's always a matter of rock-paper-scissors, but up to this point I have serious difficulty to understand which is paper and which is rock. Or lizard, or Spock.
This is true. But we would still gain insight into their respective styles as they would rely on it. But internal fortitude often has a more defining factor at that level of ability. Still getting them to do a few friendly bouts would be interesting, if only to see two top people move.